I made a vow to myself in art school to stop listening to artists and start listening to writers because they are WAY better at telling stories/public speaking/giving interviews/talking in general. Rn I'm listening to In Writing with Hattie Crisell and the New Yorker ones like The Writer's Voice. I like In Writing because it's about how they write like literally what their desks look like, what time of day, etc. Demystifies it all a bit
