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using A.I. for art instead of using it to fix problems such as poverty, climate change etc is fucking weird
art is a way people cope with human existence and express feelings as well as share and pass down culture why tf is A.I. in the mix its weird to me
Jun 2, 2024

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Agreed. Why is AI writing the poems. Please I just need my taxes calculated.
Apr 6, 2025
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i am very much of the thought group of AI should be for every day menial tasks, check my code for me or do my laundry and dishes maybe, make my life easier to function not necessarily replace my creation, ai should be a tool to help us!! use it as such!! why is this not being used to save the world when it could be!!
Jun 4, 2024
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i read somewhere that an indigenous community (i think in the west indies) is using an LLM to rediscover parts of their lost language. not sure how it works but i wish i were seeing more examples of that!!
Jun 2, 2024
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haydens that’s so cool! do u have an article or something?
Jun 2, 2024
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staysexyhavefun i read about it in the very last section of this article, and it seems i exaggerated a bit in saying they're rediscovering "lost" parts of the language, but the effort to preserve it through user-submitted knowledge is very much revitalizing the language. it's cool to see people using very corporate-associated technology to do something grassroots and for the benefit of a language that otherwise could be lost
Jun 3, 2024
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haydens i agree! thanks for the link :)
Jun 3, 2024
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as much as i hate AI art 99% of the time, there are a couple of artists with a formal background who (imo) make good use of neural networks and such as one of many tools in the creative process to reflect their taste, tuning them to create interesting pieces. good examples are https://www.instagram.com/ronjafman/ and https://www.instagram.com/loved_orleer/ who create very uncanny pictures and videos, which are sometimes accompanied by narratives and scripts. also there's https://www.instagram.com/nataliastuyk/ who trained a stable diffusion model based on her own archive of works in order to create a prototyping tool. i get your point but i just wanted to share some ways in which these tools can (again imo) help express feelings and pass down culture.
Jun 2, 2024
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shaar this is actually very interesting! ty for the links also
Jun 3, 2024
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it’s extremely depressing to me that ai could be such a helpful tool and the popular uses for it seem to be stealing jobs from artists, creating porn and making it do ur homework so u don’t have to learn… atp im like get rid of it entirely i’m sick of it and i anticipate the phenomenon only getting worse
Jun 2, 2024
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Ok so forget about the environmental issues (if you say other art forms do damage as well?), forget about the stealing from other artists (it’s true a lot of great art involves theft), forget about it being impersonal (a lot of good art is), forget about what is and isn’t art— here’s why I think maybe you shouldn’t bother with ai image generation: 
You’re unlikely to learn or create anything new, you’re just rearranging the internet’s entrails. Making more chaff that’s dead on arrival and fed back into the AI meat grinder, to be torn apart and reassembled by someone else. 
Nick Cave has a quote about art being great because we create it by pushing against our limitations, failing in ways and overcoming in others. AI is theoretically limitless, and so there is nothing to push against or transcend. 
Conceiving of some combination of images and making it happen is not a very interesting way of making art to begin with (whether you use AI or do it manually). You won’t discover anything in this creation, it’s just pure execution. Art is informed by its process, the creation of it is intrinsic to the thing itself. You have no medium, no physical or conceptual substance to push against— just someone else’s algorithm. At best you are a curator of images, or an illustrator whose products have little utility. Really just a cog in someone else’s increasingly run-of-the-mill machine, making content indistinguishable from the next guy and training an algorithm to make the world a worse place. Can you use AI as an ingredient in a more complex project? Maybe. But you’ll make better, more interesting art without it. Just because something feels inevitable doesn’t mean it’s not a choice
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I’m sure in the right hands ai can be used to create stunning art. True, that art will somewhere deep down be based on other works used to train the ai, but right now I don’t think I care. People can use any tools they like to express themselves.
Every medium is used to create bad art and to create good art. Most things people make with generative ai will be bad. But those people just as easily could be taking bad photos, painting bad paintings, carving bad marble statues or anything else.
AI is going to make all kinds of things worse for everyone (unless it just flames out - read Ed Zitron about that), but creative art is the least of it.
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hear me out on a personal level it seems to be a blessing because it will give creative power to people who aren’t gifted artistically. for example, i used ai to come up with some images based on a story plot i had which i could have never made myself because i simply dont possess that ability. now obviously, one would argue, i could outsource that work to artists and pay them, but the bottom line is this is just a side project i think about from time to time and would not want to hire someone specially for this. the fact that i do have such a tool on my disposal lets me actively engage with such ideas and take them to another level. now, these images are very evidently ai generated, so for the time being it seems ai art and human art can be distinguished, but the exponential rate at which technological is growing, ai art will soon be indiscernible from human art. in a scenario where that does happen, which isn’t far away, i think of ai art just being another form of art. one could argue using prompt to generate specific ai images is a talent too, albeit one of a different kind. but as for human art, it won’t particularly lose it’s value just because an easier counterpart has been developed, but its audience may become smaller and more niche, concentrated in certain communities.- for example, vinyl is celebrated and believed to be the best way to listen to music even in the age of streaming, but only people with certain monetary liberty can purchase vinyl. i fear the same may happen to human art.  there’s a generic rhetoric of ai art not having ‘soul’, however in a recent study more than 75% of people were not able to discern between an abstract painting made by ai and one made by a human.iIf ‘soul’ did truly exist, this number should be a lot lower, ideally zero. we think of ‘soul’ of a painting because we know its human art, but if an unknown work is presented and appears to be human art without us actually knowing whether it is or not, we wont be able to tell the difference, ie the appeal to origin fallacy. however, i do also acknowledge, that the story behind an artwork and the artist is what gives the artwork meaning, not the literal colours or patterns used. which is why I believe that ai art should clearly be labelled as ai art, and that ai art ethics committees should oversee the use of ai art. many other concerns come to mind when I think about the ethical implications of ai art- should the artists whose works are being used to train ai systems be compensated, should there be restrictions or guidelines for ai images of historically sensitive subjects, and who has proprietorship over the ai image? tying back into my first example of my individual experience with human art, it is very clearly on a personal level. the main concern is the role of ai art in public spaces. corporations, ad agencies, publishers, etc will definitely use ai art as a means to save money by not hiring human artists, and that’s fair because they care about volume and aesthetics, not about the context of an artwork (which I think we apply based on our convenience, ill elaborate in a moment). it sure means some artists losing out on money and jobs, but the use of ai will also create more jobs of supervising the ai and training it to output the desired images. It’s essentially just learning new skills which seems like a tangible first for artists because their value is now directly being challenged for the first time in history. it’s happened in almost every industry before, even before the creation of ai. the general public will eat it up, because multinational capitalistic corporations will shove it down our throats, but the people that do care about emotion and context behind real human art won’t let it die. the human art circle will become smaller, but art has always only to a certain section of the population, however for generations to come which grow up surrounded by ai art, the situation seems dire. i think the future of art isn’t human vs ai—it’s whether we still know how to care about who’s speaking, not just what’s being said
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