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Jul 4, 2025
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reading thru the comments about what your dad was saying - to me it sounds like their refusal to sell out is rooted in such deep moral values and protest of corruption consumption and greed. i RIDE for that energy. i think judging people for that is the talon grip of capitalism that is completely internalized!!! one of my neighbors is SOOOOOO TALENTED and has his own studio and in several bands and i’m like why isn’t he in like NYC or LA tryna do it? and then i was like …… why is that the only way to “do it”? what if being in a local is way more fulfilling than pledging allegiance to the mainstream music oligarchy?
Jul 4, 2025
There are some really cool people who do great work who don’t sell out and I appreciate that. There are some really cool people do great work and sell out and I appreciate them too. There’s something honorable about not selling out and choosing to stick to your guns, but I also think if someone handed me a big ole check I’d sell out for it too. Someone on a podcast once said “Selling out is lame when you’re young but a million dollar check will change you as an adult,” and I get that. That has nothing to do with the general thought of yours above, just to say that different people do it for different reasons and whether it’s an aversion to commercial success or genuine convictions is different. One of best friends makes the best music I’ve ever heard and he refuses to go and try to make it work with a label. Is it because he’s scared he won’t make it? Or is it because he genuinely doesn’t want that? Who knows!!! Humans are weird and wonderful.
Jul 4, 2025
@MARIANOLEONCZIK so true… it’s interesting because these two men in particular are genuinely principled I think but they also have massive egos and would love nothing more than to be adored by the masses. it’s something any artist with strong values has to wrestle with but it’s also a matter of what you’re willing to do to get what you want. At the end of the day I’m the same way and I don’t know that it would ever feel right for me to “sell out“ and I can’t even market myself on social media but perhaps it’s just not for me
Jul 4, 2025
@TATERHOLE you know I’m a fan of really niche shoes and I want to believe that I actually really like them but a small part of me also likes them because other people don’t understand them and I think that speaks a lot into the selling out convo — I won’t sell out and the right people will get it and the lack of success doesn’t mean that I’m bad, it means the general masses are dumb & lack taste. Ex: how did marvel movies make so much money while being bad??? Most of humanity has bad taste. Obvs I’m a curator of perfect taste. <<< this attitude is what elitism is like except you also might end up broke lol
Jul 4, 2025
@MARIANOLEONCZIK lol that’s exactly how I feel like I love attention but I would be actually extremely mad if people who don’t get me and have no taste to properly appreciate mine liked me just because I was popular or for my aesthetics or whatever. My dad stopped making fine art furniture for a long time and switched to wood wall art because he didn’t like that people would use his tables without coasters or not treat his pieces with care, but he also refused to schmooze with his wealthy would-be patrons at gallery showings because he hated yuppies so I experienced the brokeness firsthand lol
Jul 4, 2025
@TATERHOLE GOD THIS IS SO CONVICTING. I stopped making clothing because I’d see how people would wear it and be pissed. And people always ask me for more and I go “no.” And now I’m like…I’m leaving money on the table huh
Jul 4, 2025
@MARIANOLEONCZIK see other people piss me off but then i piss myself off for being such a stubborn asshole about it!!!!!!!
Jul 4, 2025
@TATERHOLE in connecting both of our threads that we’re chatting about in real time together — maybe I need to let a 7 wear my clothing so that I don’t end up poor
Jul 4, 2025
@MARIANOLEONCZIK yes I think so…. Think of it like you are helping the 7s be less ugly while also helping yourself… time to adopt a death of the author type vibe maybe
Jul 4, 2025
