This might be too hot of a take for pi.fyi but I find the “goth/alt” aesthetic that is clearly just micro trends purchased from fast fashion and amazon to be boring and played out. Goth used to incorporate a lot of DIY, vintage fashions, and repurposing garments to fit the aesthetic. Now it feels like people type “goth” into a search bar and mass buy an outfit. If you’re a teenager or even like 20 then whatever, you’re still figuring yourself out; but if you’re well into adulthood and still buying “witchy alt fashion” from fast fashion brands online, I guarantee you could be dressing cooler and more authentic to what you’re actually going for with a little more time and effort and personality.
as an almost 20 year old that considers myself to be goth… it’s not difficult to do your research. I’m still trying to find stuff from thrifting, but I’d rather just not dress goth than wear stuff from fast fashion and Amazon. the subculture’s more about the lifestyle than the aesthetic anyway
@RAVEN87 I hate to be gatekeepy but like goth is as much if not more about the music as it is the aesthetics and if you like $uicideboy$ and want to be goth more power to you but throw some bauhaus in there too at least! This is obv not directed at you but to the nebulous type of people i was speaking about in the rec.
The most goth person I ever knew was a 40 year old gay guy named Sean who only wore black t shirts and was the most morose motherfucker I’ve ever met. He was in the subculture as a kid and had much wilder looks when he was younger but tamed it down in old age but everything about the media he consumed, his attitude, his community was goth. Looking at him on the street his clothes didn’t scream goth but the moment you spoke to him you Got It. I wear a lot of black but tend to be more twee and am not a club person (didn’t ever go to the goth club in town, sorry too freaky for me) but have a very wide variety in music and media taste so we had a lot to talk about and felt he was a kindred spirit despite me not being goth aesthetically.
We were polar opposites personality-wise when we worked together when I was 23 and I was one of the only people he actually enjoyed talking to and I miss him and hope he’s happy and dour wherever he is. Shoutout to the Sean’s in the world for holding it down and I hope the baby goths one day blossom into the Sean’s they’re meant to be, outwardly goth or not.
@RAVEN87 I love that, baby bats should listen to the people who have been in the goth scene for years. a lot of the goth people on social media seem to be a good influence as well, but maybe that’s because I know what to look out for. I definitely agree about the music part as well, and if you don’t like the music, but want to dress with the aesthetic, at least call yourself gothic instead of goth
Nooot a hot take at all.. I think posers and “tourists“ are a plague and the increased acceptance of those types has really accelerated the death of subculture. It’s fake and lame and disrespectful to the people who really live whatever scene it is they’re into.. even the whole “name three songs” thing has some merit to it.
I agree wholeheartedly and believe this can be applied to just about every style out there today. I saw this as someone who grew up a die hard skateboarder and remember the times where if someone wore a thrasher hoodie or specific pair of skate shoes and couldnt answer questions about skating or showcase their abilitt to skate, we would press them/bully them and make them feel bad about it. Not to say that is the right thing to do, but there was genuine ownership and a feeling that you needed to invest into a culture and be apart of it fully, rather than enter in and out of cultures via every fad/trend/style you see fit.
allocating more than just a few pinterest ideas and aesthetics in order to curate a style that you’re confident in will make you stand out. whether you think that’s a good or bad thing, by “stand out” i mean people catch a glimpse of you and immediately know who you are based on how you dress. there’s nothing wrong with going with a trend if you like it, but it’s so painful to see people consume for the sake of consumption. i mean that’s a concept for a whole other rec in itself, but what i’m trying to get at is you don’t need to constantly use outfit inspo pics for outfit inspo. seek your surroundings, ponder your past, think about yourself as a piece of art, which you ultimately are. don’t avoid wearing the statement piece that a stranger would find weird, they’re probably just pissy. dress the fuck up on days you don’t need to just for the hell of it. and remember, don’t get discouraged if the first “crazy” fit you throw on looks like shit. it takes time to make art! and if you feel comfortable and beautiful in simpler articles, and you’re not into anything too bold or loud, still make it your look. art doesn’t have to be complex, but make each choice have purpose. why choose one blank white tee over another? is it a specific hue of white? does it compliment other features of your outfit? is it comfy as fuck? show that to people and make them know it’s you. you don’t need to dress to impress, but god if you bought that shirt only because your favorite influencer promoted it, or even worse if you bought it just because it was on a sale rack, you‘re disrespecting your canvas! it’s like pissing on a van gogh oil painting– it might look amazing but you can’t help but think about the fact that there’s piss on it. that brings me to probably the most widespread concern of consumers: cost. yes, higher quality products are going to cost more. it’s difficult in such a dense place like SoCal(where i’m from) to find cheap ANYTHING. i split a dozen dumplings for $20 the other day with a friend and i swear i could’ve called 911 on this food-influencer-aimed “chinese” restaurant for highway robbery. food was pretty good tho can’t lie. however, that doesn’t mean that it’s impossible to find incredible clothing from staple secondhand stores like Goodwill. several friends of mine have landed at their unique styles that can be associated directly to them, and their closets are mostly filled with Goodwill Bins finds. “ohhhh the Bins are so dirtyyy eewwww” yeah if you can’t dig through some used clothing for a while don’t complain about not being able to afford those $600 shitstained acne jeans. i might’ve gotten a little personal with that. lmk your thoughts on fashion and what it means to you! you know what fuck it just wear sweatpants a sweatshirt and flip flops life’s not that serious
1. making choices solely based on what’s “flattering.” I think ppl are far too attached to the idea that a piece has to “look good on you” in order to wear it. if you want to wear something because it’s comfortable or the piece looks cool or whatever the reason, you should wear it free of any mental burden.
2. heavily curating one style/core/aesthetic/microtrend. say you’ve been living large in the clean girl aesthetic for years and one day you find a dark academia piece you really like and so you spend an exorbitant amount of money on replacing your clean girl wardrobe with a dark academia one. girl, the environment. can we not all agree that we’re all likely mashups of different things with diverse taste or is that just me??
When I was a wee twiggy girl approximately aged 16-23 I would just buy whatever I could find at thrift stores that was especially weird or interesting and didn’t have to think about what it looked like because I could just slap things together and look cute and quirky. As I’ve aged I’ve developed a gourmand tendency towards indulgence and, consequently, a figure a little more like Marilyn Monroe (not in the way a lot of women say it—no offense and bless them for living their truth—I’m speaking objectively) so my focus is like purely on finding clothes that fit me structurally that have very particular shapes silhouettes and details. I’m also careful about finding clothes that fit within an autumnal color palette to suit my complexion. I generally won’t buy clothes if they’re not made of natural fibers and if I’m thrift shopping or on poshmark I keep an eye out for pieces from designers I love. I look for things that fit with my well loved staple items and only buy something if I really love it because I don’t like to have a lot of stuff anymore. I love lush textures and fabrics for winter like velvet and fur